Summary

Why don't you sit and think about all of the elements of society that brought us to where we are right now and then think about where lack of empathy, understanding, and sympathy has gotten us.

#FirstCoffeeThoughts

I watched the 60 Minute interview with Clavicular and honestly I thought it was trash.

This is where Media Therapy comes into play because it studies transference and what we put into media that we watch, not what we take out of it.

I found the interviewer, Adam Hegarty, absolutely ghoulish. More ghoulish than Clav himself.

The interviewer reminded me of all the adults in my life when I was growing up misunderstood, alone in my own reality, suffering, and no one took it seriously.

The interviewer is acting as if he has no clue what the reality is that Clav exists in. He’s not willing to address the reality that young people of all genders live in or the issues they face.

The interviewer acts as if women haven’t been “Looksmaxxing” since the time they are 11 or 12 years old. He acts like he has no idea of the hell women and girls experience, the brainwashing from society, magazines, television etc.

Which is … weird AF. It makes him seem completely clueless.

Maybe people who don’t live in the U.S. empire don’t know how toxic, misled, groomed, and brainwashed young men and women are here.

Maybe he legitimately believes that everything Clav is talking about is somehow made up.

Maybe he doesn’t know that 80% of celebrities get plastic surgery.

Maybe he looks in the mirror and genuinely believes that his looks didn’t get him anywhere.

He seems delusional. Like someone who believes racism doesn’t exist or that Black people aren’t oppressed.

At one point he asks if Clav really thinks people will eventually all go down this looksmaxxing path and Clav basically says …

“𝙇𝙤𝙤𝙠 𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙤𝙣 𝙂𝙇𝙋-1𝙨.”

In that moment the interviewer looks even more delusional to me. It’s like he has ZERO understanding of the world outside of his own reality. He thinks what this guy is doing and talking about is nonsense, but he seems to have no idea where society even is.

He lives in his own bubble and it’s so very clear he has no clue.

This interviewer is the kind of oblivious white male who doesn’t believe any problems exist that he’s never seen.

He is smug and he is arrogant and he has no clue about the topic he’s interviewing this kid about.

He knows buzzwords and he thinks teenagers are probably idiots because they use slang he doesn’t understand and they sound silly and do silly things that maybe they will regret when they are older.

He sounds like a fucking moron with NO CLUE what the world is like for young men OR young women.

He reminds me of when I was growing up and my parents called everything I was going through as a teenager “silly” or not important or that I was overreacting etc.

Their goal was to make me feel silly for taking my reality seriously. But I had friends committing suicide over these “silly” issues or who had severe eating disorders or were experimenting with drugs to deal with pain, pressure, bullying, etc.

My parents felt that teenage problems were just jokes.

This interviewer is similar.

Clav and cult leaders like him succeed because they appeal to the reality others are living in that is real for them.

You don’t have to be in it to understand it or take it seriously as a problem and address it seriously.

This interviewer is only here to make fun of this guy and his followers, to make him look insane or unstable, not to do a really serious deep dive into the society that created Clav and young men like him.

Clav is no more deranged than the women who looksmaxx starting at an even earlier age. Who starve themselves or destroy their bodies to be thin.

The interviewer doesn’t want to acknowledge the reality that Clav lives in that pretty much proves his point that once he became better looking, once his “beauty metrics” started getting higher, that he became more popular as a content creator, more women wanted to be with him, he started making more money etc.

These are FACTS. Wanting to ignore them just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t change the FACTS. Most adults don’t want to even admit that streamers and some gamers make more than them because they think it’s ridiculous. That sounds like jealousy to me and also delusion.

Another fact: If I was born WHITE and MALE I would have a very different life with more opportunity and I’d probably be wealthier. That is a FACT. If I was a HOT, thin, physically appealing male, that would up my chances of success TREMENDOUSLY. These are FACTS.

This is NOT a serious interviewer tackling an issue of what is essentially a cult created out of the toxic U.S. empire environment of pitting everyone against one another, emphasizing beauty, whiteness, popularity, capitalism, and financial success so much that preteens embrace hustle culture and multiple revenue streams. This is an idiot who exists just to belittle someone mentally ill.

I could take a million screenshots of this interviewer and in each one he looks like an arrogant, clueless prick who gets off on trying to make people feel silly or make other men look smaller than him.

“𝙒𝙚𝙡𝙡 𝙄 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠 𝙢𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙬𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙣 𝙬𝙤𝙪𝙡𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙧𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨 …”

Would you, sir? Most women would probably think you’re a prick.

No one cares about what you think most women would think. You probably have no clue what women actually think. You certainly have absolutely no clue what teenagers think or what young boys or young girls experience every fucking day.

You live in a weird, creepy delusional reality where no problems are real if they don’t exist for you.

How arrogant white male of you.

The manosphere doesn’t exist for no reason. It didn’t spring up randomly because someone decided one day … hey let’s hate women, let’s hate ourselves, and let’s destroy the world.

That’s like saying the alt-right, republicans, the KKK, and whiteness just sprang up one day unprompted by anything and simply because some white guy was deranged and started a reddit forum one weekend.

That’s not how ANY OF THIS works. There is no “all of the sudden”.

It’s ALL been BUILDING for clear REASONS that can be tracked, studied, measured, and analyzed … Clav doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

More than half the population of the United States is in cults. There are many kinds of cults and more than half the population is in one or more. More than half the population is brainwashed in some way shape or form – women and men – to believe things that are so far from reality. More than half the population is struggling to survive and looking at a future that is so bleak and so pointless that suicide makes more sense.

And the interviewer asks: “𝙒𝙝𝙮 𝙙𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙙𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙛?”

Seriously? You really don’t know? What world do you live in where you don’t have to have a fucking clue about what is actually going on in the world or what reality is like for people other than you? What absolute fucking privilege you live in. It’s gross AF.

I am immediately turned off by “adults” who hate slang and make fun of the way young people create, protect, and express their realities through language. I am immediately turned off by white men who live in privilege and think that there is no reality that exists outside of their own that requires extreme measures, serious discussions or desperate actions.

“𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙙𝙤𝙚𝙨 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙛𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙮 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠?”

Clav says they are happy about the success. Of course they are. Because their mentally ill son is a cult leader who brings in BANK for them. Or they don’t give a shit because they’re horrible parents who gave up trying to parent a long time ago or never should have had children like 80% of people out there.

What kind of a question is that? Who cares what his parents think? Why do you think he would care what they think. He doesn’t NEED them. He never did.

At one point the interviewer says:

“𝙄’𝙢 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙧𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙥𝙞𝙘𝙠 𝙖 𝙛𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙮𝙤𝙪, 𝙄’𝙢 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙧𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙣𝙙.”

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

He’s not trying to understand anything. He’s trying to pick a fight with this kid to make him seem deranged and unstable.

The joke is on you because society made him this way. The US empire made an entire generation like this and its WORKING AS INTENDED. Pretending its all just “silly” is a deflection of truth and straight up denial.

I saw clickbait headlines about the interview like “watch looksmaxx creator Clavicular breakdown and walkout” and honestly I didn’t get that from the interview at all.

I saw a privileged white male asshole try his best to belittle, insult, bait, and otherwise exploit a mentally ill young man for ratings. I saw a delusional white male who clearly had no knowledge of the topic beyond whatever Postit notes, YouTube clips, and buzzwords he was given 10 minutes before Clav sat down.

I saw only disrespect.

I am a queer, Black, masculine woman and even I understand how racists become racists, how white women become trad wives, how white men become trash, and how an entire generation of white boys can become violent, mentally ill, misogynistic monsters who are the biggest threat to women’s safety.

I was young so I understand what slang and shared reality is for a teenager.

I understand the world before the Internet and after the Internet.

I understand how loneliness, brainwashing, grooming, bad parenting, societal caging, lack of opportunity, support, and understanding can absolutely create monsters.

None of it is rocket science.

This interview is trash. The clickbait thumbnail is even more cringe.

It serves no purpose other than to try and exploit and humiliate a mentally ill young man.

It doesn’t look to address REAL PROBLEMS or ask REAL QUESTIONS about the cult of men and women that have been groomed to believe the societal TRUTH that looks, money, and status are the most important measures of success in the U.S. and beyond.

Instead it treats Clav’s reality as if it’s simply “delusion” and that it’s all “oh so very silly”.

So as I wrote yesterday … all I saw in that interview was a HORRIBLE adult being HORRIBLE to a young, mentally ill boy and pushing him and baiting him and laughing at him and treating him like he’s a joke.

What I didn’t see was concern, a real conversation about what is going on with male youth, discussions about what is wrong with society etc.

What I saw was exactly the reasons young people are joining cults, abandoning their parents, cutting off their families, committing suicide, and more.

From a Media Therapy standpoint what I saw in that interview via the lens of MY lived experience … is someone SCREAMING for help at the top of his lungs and displaying clear behavior that indicates mental illness … and NO ONE IS LISTENING, NO ONE CARES, and that pretty much means adults, including his family, are actively encouraging him to die probably while they enjoy all the money he brings in. What I see is someone who needs help and isn’t getting it.

Am I capable of seeing Clav as a mentally ill lunatic piece of demented white trash who runs a cult and is out in the world doing more harm than good? Absolutely I am capable of seeing him that way.

But I will also point out that people have said the same thing about me and how I live my life. People have called me crazy for simply using LOGIC or called me mentally ill because I am a stoic.

Everyone sees everything through their own lenses, biases, and realities. It doesn’t make it true.

Given my own experiences in the world, given what I experienced in my own youth, long before social media even existed and my peers still found ways of DESTROYING EACH OTHER and bullying each other and manipulating each other and were also suffering from low self esteem, suicidal thoughts, struggling to fit in, to find their path, to know who they were … given that I understand the world we live in now to be 1000% WORSE than when I grew up … I see Clav in a deeper more empathetic way.

The adults around him want to exploit him and wait from him to outlive his usefulness. The adult males who interview him do so to bolster their own egos and bully and belittle him just as they would weaker males on a playground. They want to assert their own toxic masculinity by trying to make him smaller. I just see more and more of the same shit and no actual concern, help, support, or alarm bells going off for any of them.

They’re all trash.

Does Clav deserve any sympathy or empathy or understanding from me?

I dunno …

Why don’t you sit and think about all of the elements of society that brought us to where we are right now especially if you want to look at all the white males and white supremacists that have brought ruin to our society and country due to their unmanaged mental illness, unchecked hatred, lack of education, and lack of support. Then think about where lack of empathy, understanding, and sympathy has gotten us.

Does that mean Clav should get a free pass for bringing more harm into the world because of his unhealed trauma and unmanaged mental illness?

Of course fucking not.

But this just lends more weight to what I’m always talking about when it comes to the cycles of abuse and trauma that come from people not addressing TRUTHS and instead choosing useless emotions like anger or spending time in states of delusion instead of seeing reality.

This. Is. How. We. Got. Here.
By not SEEING TRUTH or PEOPLE.

If you’re someone who can’t see truth because of your own biases and you own shortcomings as a person then you are ABSOLUTELY part of the problem that we have in society today.

The problem with that interview WAS NOT CLAVICULAR.

He HAS a problem. Many problems. But he was not the problem with that entire gross, exploitative, toxic, bullshit interview. Clav is a victim … a victim of A LOT OF THINGS and A LOT OF PEOPLE and if you can’t see that … you’re probably one of the people victimizing him.